Full-time, white collar workers generally are not expected to "clock in" in the United States. It's why certain employees are legally exempt from overtime pay.
To ask exempt employees to clock in and out demonstrates that management doesn't trust its employees, which is a failure on the part of hiring/management, not the workers.
Individuals making 3x the national median income are not "workers" by any definition. They are a part of the elite, top 10% of society. They will survive!
At a minimum any commute is extra unpaid time you have to spend for no benefit. For many people where I live, commutes can be an hour or more each way.
Might be needed if your salary expense has to be charged back to various internal accounts or to external clients. My first job was salaried, but I had to fill out a time sheet so clients could be billed.
I don't even fill out a timesheet; they just pay me. It was kind of shocking at first when my manager told me there wouldn't be any sort of time tracking.
In my case, the company uses a single time tracking system for all full-time employees across the country. Different states have different requirements for reporting. There are seven types of PTO, depending on where the employee lives.
If they're on Hacker News, there's a good chance they've never made less than a six figure salary in their entire life, which would certainly place them in the upper 5% of wealth globally. So while it isn't a certain bet it is a safe bet.
And if it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you. There are plenty of people here it does apply to.
Yeah... that's 1 in 20? The smart kid in the back of the class grew up? I'm not sure who you were expecting that person to become.
If the barrier to becoming an "elite" is that low and you still consider 6-figures a meaningful benchmark in a world that sells big macs for 10 bucks, are you also calling anyone running even a modestly successful small business "elite"?
I'm not even sure I'm engaging with a meaningful political statement here. The barriers to this level of "success" are more reliably psychological, not systemic. You're basically upset at anyone with a career. There are definitely things we need to do to help those struggling, but yelling here is slacktivism.
Yes. Having more wealth than the vast majority of people makes you an elite.
I don't know why you think making a 100k or higher salary is just "Big Mac money," but you're either larping or exactly the kind of out of touch I'm talking about.
Exactly. Median income in the US like 50k. For the HN folk (including me) who make more than that, I'm very happy for you, but please stop pretending you are part of the downtrodden, oppressed proletariat. Be happy for your lot in life, but for the love of god find a way to be humble. Consider yourself lucky, enjoy your time in the sun, but no one is oppressing you by asking you to come to the office.
> Ressentiment: A chronic, festering state of mind. It is a lasting mental attitude where the suppressed emotions of envy and spite continually replay in the mind, leading to a general, cynical worldview.
lol not even close. I have a positive outlook and think the world can be a better place. I just think that world will involve most people working together in workspaces and clocking in. There will always be some professions & situations where that's not the right call but I have no reason to believe SW dev will always be one of them.
