What was the quality of the women who responded favorably to this line? :P

I think it's also worthy to note that the origin makes a huge difference. If you e.g. have an underwear model trying that line on a woman, it will no doubt succeed more often than if a stereotypical truck driver delivered it in exactly the same way.

They are NOT really responding to the line. That's the thing.

With an opener like that, what matters is attitude and confidence. If you deliver it completely normal, as if you couldn't possibly imagine it could be offensive, then most likely they will just start by laughing it off or throwing some test in your face, expecting you to fall apart.

If you show you can handle what they throw back at you, you've both demonstrated confidence, that you're the kind of guy that expects women to fall over themselves to sleep with you and so you really are honest and can say what you like, and you've made it clear to them from the start that you're after sex; you're "dangerous", not some potential guy to amuse them while they have a few drinks.

Sexual intent, confidence and the perception that you're very successful with women and don't need to by shy about what you're after means far more than looks.

Personally I'd expect that line to work better on "good quality" girls, actually. Especially pretty girls that know they look good.

If you try it on girls that don't look good enough or that seem insecure etc., you might very easily come off as thinking they're easy.

With really beautiful and/or confident girls you're more likely for them to expect guys to be shy and deferential or just plain creepy.

Of course the chance of coming off as creepy with a line like that if not delivered with the perfect attitude is pretty high.

You seem to contradict yourself:

Personally I'd expect that line to work better on "good quality" girls, actually. Especially pretty girls that know they look good.

Uh huh.

With really beautiful and/or confident girls you're more likely for them to expect guys to be shy and deferential or just plain creepy.

Of course the chance of coming off as creepy with a line like that if not delivered with the perfect attitude is pretty high.

Uh? So if a pretty girl is more used to guys being shy or creepy and you deliver the line in question, which way do you think she's more likely to interpret the approach? You then go on to say that in any case, the chances of coming off as creepy while using such a line are pretty high.

Sexual intent, confidence and the perception that you're very successful with women and don't need to by shy about what you're after means far more than looks.

Well that really depends on how ugly you are, doesn't it. :) If you're average to good looking, then yeah I can see (and have personally seen) how attitude makes a difference. If you look like you fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, then good luck with that awesome confidence you're exuding. I suspect it will be just you and your hand tonight, as a lady once sung.

Sounds to me like you're more working off how you wish things were as opposed to how they are. It seems pretty self evident in my mind that no matter how the line in question is delivered, there will be girls who respond positively and girls who do not. The point I'm trying to make is that it's more about the girl than it is the opening line. How inebriated the girl is would make a large difference to the outcome of the interaction and at the risk of repeating myself, in my experience the girls who would respond positively to that line generally are not the ones I've wanted to sleep with.

It's another thing entirely if we're talking about using this line or something similar on a woman who you've know for a while and who has had a chance to get used to your personality and sense of humour. I think there might be a far greater chance of a positive response from a "quality girl" in this case. But this isn't what we're talking about here.

In the end, I guess you can test your expectations for yourself. Let me know how it goes. :) And hey, this is HN and I have no studies or statistics I can cite to prove my point so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

>I think it's also worthy to note that the origin makes a huge difference.

See, I would have thought so too, but Ed is about 5'4", bad teeth and a heavy smoker. One thing in his favour though, he was a snappy dresser as he wore lots of designer clothing.

I honestly thought he was joking but we were hanging out in Melbourne one evening at a pub. I decided to test him out, pointed out someone and said he should pick her up. Obviously I couldn't hear what he was saying from a distance, but you could visibly see where he dropped the bombshell (the expression on her face) and he sold it like it was the most normal thing in the world.

I honestly just thought it was perhaps Ed, because one data point does not a trend make... seems it might not be so.

I wouldn't be so sure about that - the greatest womanizer I've ever known is a lanky, almost scrawny nerd with curly hair. What he lacks in looks he more than makes up in his personality - he's the life of the party, knows everything about everyone, a master socializer... etc.

He's a shoot first ask questions later sort of guy - will never betray a moment of doubt, I think that's what makes him successful at both life and women.

I'm pretty sure of it dude, looks matter, period. Although I don't think there's any denying that personality generally seems to factor more heavily in what is attractive to a woman as opposed to what is attractive to a man, Ill certainly give you that.

But as I alluded to in my previous comment, all the womenizers I have known have had more than their fair share of skanky chicks because after all was said and done, they were pretty skanky themselves. There is usually a certain type of woman who will go for "Look, girls are into honesty right? Well the truth is I have a big d!&k and want to put it in you" and I've found by and large that those aren't the most interesting kind. My strategy has been quality over quantity and it's worked out pretty well so far.