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>Being a process node ahead is already "much better", and IS a feat. Where are the process node ahead chips from the competitors?

Not if you still don't beat them cleanly. The end result is what matters. Also, being able to pay more than other people isn't a technical feat.

>On top of that, it's Apple's own SoC design, it has its own GPU design and co-processors, tons of work into making speed optimizations all around (from the buses to memory handling), and came with a new OS release, a port to the new architecture, a bridge layer for iOS apps, and a perfectly capable x86 translation layer.

Half of that is software, which I didn't mention, and the rest is par for the course. The buses and interconnects in a Zen chip are far superior, which you notice as better I/O.

>Which mainstream PC chip in actual laptops/desktops people use has unified memory and doesn't use sockets/DIMMS?

You didn't mention Sockets/DIMMS, but literally any AMD APU has unified memory, and use memory DIMMs. Seems like the best of both worlds to me. Just as good memory performance, and it's upgradeable.

>That's a moot point, since they still carry all the x86 baggage in microcode, since tons of bad decisions leading to things like Spectra. ARM doesn't.

AMD is not affected by Spectre. ARM also uses speculative execution.



> they still carry all the x86 baggage in microcode, since tons of bad decisions leading to things like Spectra. ARM doesn't

> AMD is not affected by Spectre

This is not true. AMD, ARM, Intel, and IBM are all affected by Spectre (Bounds Check Bypass) and that particular variant has not been fixed in hardware, and short of disabling speculative execution or radical changes to ISA or microarchitecture, is likely to never be fixed purely in hardware.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.05178.pdf


AMD's new CPUs, post FX, are not affected by the majority of Spectre vulnerability. The ones that do affect them are fixed in software with essentially no performance penalty. Less than even ARM CPUs.




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