The crazy thing is that - I worked on VS 10 years before you did - and it was at...

uxp8u61q · on Nov 3, 2023

That's what happens to mature products. Not everything is a brand new startup that grows 1000% every quarter.

wkat4242 · on Nov 3, 2023

It's more that Microsoft lost the cross platform war. .NET lost and electron won. They even use it (or their own WebView knockoff) for their own products now. So there's no more need to give .NET away. They just milk the niche market that still depends on it.

thesuperbigfrog · on Nov 3, 2023

>> the niche market that still depends on it.

That "niche market" likely pulls in billions of dollars from enterprises.

wkat4242 · on Nov 3, 2023

It does yes but it's no longer a mainstream dev tool really. Which means there is no longer any point in giving it away for free to try and gain more mainstream application marketshare.

They tried to displace Java but failed.

thesuperbigfrog · on Nov 4, 2023

>> yes but it's no longer a mainstream dev tool really.

C# is currently #5 on Tiobe right behind Java:

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

It is just as mainstream as Java and everything else in the top ten.

>> They tried to displace Java but failed.

Enterprises used to be either Linux / Java shops or Windows / C# / VB shops.

Now both Java and C# are being slowly displaced by Containers, Go, and Rust.

phillipcarter · on Nov 3, 2023

Oh, undoubtedly. When I was there the writing was on the wall -- it's got a decade or two more life to it, but it's long peaked on the ARR curve.