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Isn't that a strawman? Nobody wants to take cars away, not even in the most extreme countries. What they generally do is they want people to have comparable options until some folks just give up their cars and pocket the savings, accepting the discomfort caused by the constant lack of a car.


> Nobody wants to take cars away

In a lot of these discussions, people do often comment denigrating people who drive and acting as if they must walk/bike/etc and there's something wrong with them if they don't want to, without considering whether the tradeoffs make sense for them or not. Those kinds of comments alienate people.

Giving people options would be great. Making a balance would be great. Separating car and pedestrian infrastructure would be great. Massively reducing pedestrian fatalities is incredibly important. All of those things would be much easier to advocate for and enact without those kinds of comments.


> In a lot of these discussions, people do often comment denigrating people who drive and acting as if they must walk/bike/etc and there's something wrong with them if they don't want to, without considering whether the tradeoffs make sense for them or not. Those kinds of comments alienate people.

The amount of in-real life hostility from the car driver community is 1000x but car drivers don't realize it. Hostility on the roads themselves, hostility to ANY proposal that would reduce the number of lanes (to dedicate to buses, cycling, sidewalks, etc).

So it's kind of understandable why there's so much pent-up anger.


Absolutely. I've seen the same hostility you're talking about.

These kinds of policy discussions would go far better with a lot more empathy across the board for perspectives other than ones' own.




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